Mack Brown stepping down...

[Hmbre97]

Wait, you guys only count winning it all. Don't give me that crap. OU is a storied program too, not some Johnny come lately. Call it what you want, but as I said earlier -- they were ranked higher than Texas most times when they played. Stoops also has 7 titles, not 9. In 2012, they tied with K St., but K. State beat them head to head. 2011 was Ok. State. Nice job getting your numbers right though. Even further in that was the number of times OU finished tied for the division but got the nod because of the tiebreaker system. Three other times they've finished tied for the South division.

Oh, and care to remind me who won the game this year? Hint, it was the unranked team. Maybe you should get Stoops to resign too. The way I see it is Stoops had plenty more chances to win big games, but he's what 3-5 in BCS bowls including that killer loss to Boise St.

Mack is 3-1 in BCS games. He equaled Stoops' big game victories in his first 3 BCS games. Seems like Stoops < Brown to me when it counts the most -- the big bowl games.

My bad. Stoops only has 7 compared to Mack's 2. That makes it much better.

[BERT]

Do I think we'll go 2-11 next year? No do I think it's going to be the stellar "great that Mack's gone" like your preaching? No we'll be half assed and everyone will blame "rebuilding" We are now stuck in a position where we need a coach when we had a good one. Was he Bear Bryant, Tom Landry, and Jimmy Johnson rolled into one? No But as others have he did deserve to go out on his own terms and not thrown out the door. And yes DKR had less bowl chance but he also had less powerhouse schools to contend with and a system to pick bowl games that you could call arbitrary at best. The high schools were not putting out the talent they do now. The colleges were not putting the money into the programs that they do now. Hell college football wasn't what it is now. Who every thought Baylor or TCU would have a decent team. Those games were jokes back in the day.

Wait a minute, I'm saying Texas is going to have a stellar year next year with Mack gone???? I haven't said such a thing. Only thing I've said is that it's time for a change. Do go putting words in my mouth just to prove your point.

[BERT]

I'll even say this about winning being important. When there's only ONE coach getting paid more than you and that coach has 3 BCS championships in 4 years. Then yes, winning is very important. Especially when you have people looking around going "wait, Mack's almost paid as much as Saban and we're nowhere near the top".

But hey!!! Mack makes the university millions of dollars. And that's all the matters, right?

[BERT]

My bad. Stoops only has 7 compared to Mack's 2. That makes it much better.

HEY NOW!!! It's not all about winning. These are just kids out there and as long as they try, it's ok.

[juiceweezl]

My bad. Stoops only has 7 compared to Mack's 2. That makes it much better.

3-1 in BCS games > 3-5. Guess you're overlooking that part. Also, go ahead and look up the value of the programs. Brown & UT > than every other coach & school...AGAIN.

[Rick Modena]

You fucking SIP's, man...

[Hmbre97]

3-1 in BCS games > 3-5. Guess you're overlooking that part. Also, go ahead and look up the value of the programs. Brown & UT > than every other coach & school...AGAIN.

No, I'm not overlooking it. Stoops got his teams into 8 BCS bowls vs Mack only able to get there 4 times. Who cares about the wins or losses at that point. Recruits don't. If I'm a player, I wanna go play for the team that is in the hunt consistently. As a player, I could give 2 shits what the program is worth, I wanna play for a team where I can win titles and show off my skills to transition into the NFL.

[juiceweezl]

No, I'm not overlooking it. Stoops got his teams into 8 BCS bowls vs Mack only able to get there 4 times. Who cares about the wins or losses at that point. Recruits don't. If I'm a player, I wanna go play for the team that is in the hunt consistently. As a player, I could give 2 shits what the program is worth, I wanna play for a team where I can win titles and show off my skills to transition into the NFL.

And UT fits the bill completely with that and more. If you think recruits choose a school simply to get to the NFL, then you know absolutely nothing about collegiate sports. About 2% of high school athletes play college sports. Less than a percent of that 2% go on to play pro ball. Choices are made based on educational facilities, graduation rates, assistance programs, etc. Mack Brown put Texas at the front of the line in all those areas. It sounds as if you know nothing about college in general, much less collegiate sports.

[Hmbre97]

And UT fits the bill completely with that and more. If you think recruits choose a school simply to get to the NFL, then you know absolutely nothing about collegiate sports. About 2% of high school athletes play college sports. Less than a percent of that 2% go on to play pro ball. Choices are made based on educational facilities, graduation rates, assistance programs, etc. Mack Brown put Texas at the front of the line in all those areas. It sounds as if you know nothing about college in general, much less collegiate sports.

Right. That's why recruiting has been so great as of late, yes?

[slow99]

Good God.

[BERT]

And UT fits the bill completely with that and more. If you think recruits choose a school simply to get to the NFL, then you know absolutely nothing about collegiate sports. About 2% of high school athletes play college sports. Less than a percent of that 2% go on to play pro ball. Choices are made based on educational facilities, graduation rates, assistance programs, etc. Mack Brown put Texas at the front of the line in all those areas. It sounds as if you know nothing about college in general, much less collegiate sports.

Maybe it's you who doesn't know collegiate sports. Cause if you think 18yr olds that are going to college to play FOOTBALL give a damn about graduating rates or educational facilities, then you don't know a damn thing. Players only care about what is going to make them a better football player. And they all think they're going to the pros.

[juiceweezl]

Maybe it's you who doesn't know collegiate sports. Cause if you think 18yr olds that are going to college to play FOOTBALL give a damn about graduating rates or educational facilities, then you don't know a damn thing. Players only care about what is going to make them a better football player. And they all think they're going to the pros.

Keep spewing your ignorance. I have placed plenty of athletes in college, and I promise you, they and their families make their decisions based on 90% the school and its offerings versus the NFL. They know the odds of making it to the NFL are slim and none. Go survey every kid on a collegiate roster and find out how many of them think they really have a chance at going to the NFL. Maybe your eyes will be opened then.

[Hmbre97]

http://www.texassports.com/news/2011/12/5/120511aab_57.aspx

After countless hours dedicated to attending classes, studying, finishing homework and taking tests, a group of distinguished young football players earned their degrees from the University of Texas on December 3, 2011. The Texas Longhorns graduated 15 student-athletes and two former student-athletes this past weekend.


Former running back Tr&eacute; Newton, who earned his degree in Corporate Communications, made the tough decision to prematurely end his football career last year after suffering several concussions.

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"It shows everybody that we really have two different lives. Once you're in class you're focusing
on class. Once you're on the field you're focusing on football," explained senior tight end Ahmard Howard, who graduated with a degree in Applied Learning and Development.

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"It's four years of commitment. Four years you put into it. Four years of studying. Every day and every night. Graduation is the culmination of all things coming together," remarked Snow, who graduated with a degree in Corporate Communications.

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"To be someone that's graduating in three-and-a-half years, and to get a degree while I was still playing, is a huge accomplishment," remarked Johnson, who earned his degree in Physical Culture and Sport. "I'm proud of myself and I'm proud that UT helped me a lot."

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Allen had already mastered graduation once, receiving a degree in Physical Culture and Sport this past May. He decided to stay at Texas for another season and earned his second degree this weekend in Youth and Community Studies.

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Everyone knows that UT is world renowned for their Corporate Communications and Physical Culture and Sport degree plans.....

[Hmbre97]

I bet juiceweezl tells his wife he goes to the titty bar because the food is good too.

[juiceweezl]

Everyone knows that UT is world renowned for their Corporate Communications and Physical Culture and Sport degree plans.....

They don't just give degrees away, you still have to attend class and do the work. You probably don't know that I'm guess since you haven't been to school or are 12. As I said, I've sent kids to school in other sports, some at the D1 level. I know all about collegiate sports and degrees. Go back to DeVry or IT Tech or wherever it is you go to school and make sure you learn how to hit the switch to reset the timer when you drop the fries.