Saints implosion

[papapepper]

I'm not implying anything. And "looking like a fool" is making a statement like "Saints took it easy today" when in fact, they flat out got beat. It had nothing to do with taking it easy. They just got beat.

Guess so....

Adrian Arrington hadn't played all season.

Darren Sharper took over for Malcom Jenkins.

Reggie Bush led the rushing attack.

Just a few things.... Think about it. The Saints played yesterday different from how they played all year.

[mstng86]

Guess so....

Adrian Arrington hadn't played all season.

Darren Sharper took over for Malcom Jenkins.

Reggie Bush led the rushing attack.

Just a few things.... Think about it. The Saints played yesterday different from how they played all year.

Dude, just say it. The Saints got beat.

Come on, it isn't that hard. There is no master scheme here. They went out with a game plan to win the game, and they didn't. No big deal. Not everything is due to Peytons planning. Sometimes things just go the way they go, without any conceivable reasoning.

[pHILSANITY07]

Its okay for the Saints, aint like they are going to have a problem against Seattle lol

[bcoop]

Guess so....

Adrian Arrington hadn't played all season.

Darren Sharper took over for Malcom Jenkins.

Reggie Bush led the rushing attack.

Just a few things.... Think about it. The Saints played yesterday different from how they played all year.

Jesus. lmfao. Look at the excuses! It's impossible for you to admit defeat, isn't it?


Darren Sharper is a vet, and a very capable one at that. Jenkins is still green, is he not?

Reggies Bush lead the rushing attack because Pierre Thomas is hurt. But the way you talk about Bush, he's such a badass, he should have had 150 yards rushing. Oh, wait.... That's something he has failed to do his entire NFL Career (see:Bust). Arrington played because Colston is hurt.


It's not like they just trotted out these decisions because they wanted to lose. They trotted them out, because they were backed in to a corner and their roster is depleted in some areas. Do you have any idea how many players Dallas has had to pick up, that were sitting at home just to get through the season? Manny Johnson started for Dallas yesterday, and has never played a regular season down in the NFL. And Dallas won. Imagine that.


Good luck in the playoffs., with that whole 'never won a road playoff game' record the Saints have going....

[papapepper]

Dude, just say it. The Saints got beat.

Come on, it isn't that hard. There is no master scheme here. They went out with a game plan to win the game, and they didn't. No big deal. Not everything is due to Peytons planning. Sometimes things just go the way they go, without any conceivable reasoning.

They got beat. I never said they should have won or didn't lose.

No one agrees with me though? The Saints played a different game. Different personal packages etc.. Then the normal.

When is the last time Bush had over 50+ yards on the ground? Last season. When is the last time Arrington caught a pass? Never.

[bcoop]

No one agrees with me though? The Saints played a different game. Different personal packages etc.. Then the normal.

When is the last time Bush had over 50+ yards on the ground? Last season. When is the last time Arrington caught a pass? Never.

Again, they didn't go with that roster to give players time off before the playoffs. If that was the case, Brees would have been out in the first quarter. They went with those packages, because they HAD to, to be able to play the game.

[papapepper]

Jesus. lmfao. Look at the excuses! It's impossible for you to admit defeat, isn't it?


Darren Sharper is a vet, and a very capable one at that. Jenkins is still green, is he not?

Reggies Bush lead the rushing attack because Pierre Thomas is hurt. But the way you talk about Bush, he's such a badass, he should have had 150 yards rushing. Oh, wait.... That's something he has failed to do his entire NFL Career (see:Bust). Arrington played because Colston is hurt.


It's not like they just trotted out these decisions because they wanted to lose. They trotted them out, because they were backed in to a corner and their roster is depleted in some areas. Do you have any idea how many players Dallas has had to pick up, that were sitting at home just to get through the season? Manny Johnson started for Dallas yesterday, and has never played a regular season down in the NFL. And Dallas won. Imagine that.


Good luck in the playoffs., with that whole 'never won a road playoff game' record the Saints have going....

Lol at the last comment. We sure had good luck with the whole never won a super bowl stat either.

Reggie Bush NEVER Carries the ball that much. Pierre Thomas was hurt? So what? He's been hurt all season and Chris Ivory has been the guy since. He only carried the ball 5-7 times yesterday? Why?

Colston has always missed games here and there.... Arrington has never been an option before. Henderson had 0 catches. Meachem had 1 catch. Isn't normal at all for the Saints.

I admit the Bucs beat the Saints. They wanted it more and it showed. Congratulations.

[Lone Sailor]

I don't have all the answers..... I just think the Saints let off the gas just a tad bit.

What did the Saints have to play for? Everyone and their momma knew Atlanta would beat Carolina.

I'm willing to bet Peyton knew what he was doing. He let Reggie Bush carry most of the work load trying to get him ready for the playoffs. Adrian Arrington is also another player who Peyton had carry the load for the receiving corps.

I expect Bush & Arrington both to have very good games in the playoffs.

Alls I'm saying is that since they didn't have anything to play for why didn't they rest their starters and let the backups play in this meaningless game? I don't get why they felt the need to risk Drew Brees, Reggie bush, among others, to injury in a game that didn't make 2 shits whether they won or lost. I can see maybe playing them for 1 or 2 series just to keep them in some action this week, but for 3+ quarters of the game? Risking your starters while trying to win a meaningless game and about to head into the playoffs makes absolutely zero sense to me. Kind of like Atlanta playing their starters. Really? Atlanta needed to play their starters in order to beat Carolina? That's hilarious.

[bcoop]

Alls I'm saying is that since they didn't have anything to play for why didn't they rest their starters and let the backups play in this meaningless game? I don't get why they felt the need to risk Drew Brees, Reggie bush, among others, to injury in a game that didn't make 2 shits whether they won or lost. I can see maybe playing them for 1 or 2 series just to keep them in some action this week, but for 3+ quarters of the game? Risking your starters while trying to win a meaningless game and about to head into the playoffs makes absolutely zero sense to me. Kind of like Atlanta playing their starters. Really? Atlanta needed to play their starters in order to beat Carolina? That's hilarious.

Some coaches don't believe in resting their starters. Much in the same way that some teams come out completely uncoordinated, or lost from a bye week. This obviously doesn't happen to most teams, as the bye week is a huge advantage. But some teams just flat out suck coming out of a week off. The rhythm is gone, etc.

[papapepper]

Alls I'm saying is that since they didn't have anything to play for why didn't they rest their starters and let the backups play in this meaningless game? I don't get why they felt the need to risk Drew Brees, Reggie bush, among others, to injury in a game that didn't make 2 shits whether they won or lost. I can see maybe playing them for 1 or 2 series just to keep them in some action this week, but for 3+ quarters of the game? Risking your starters while trying to win a meaningless game and about to head into the playoffs makes absolutely zero sense to me. Kind of like Atlanta playing their starters. Really? Atlanta needed to play their starters in order to beat Carolina? That's hilarious.

My only guess is that Sean Peyton wanted to play Brees and company for some reason.... Same as Atlanta. why? Who knows....

[Lone Sailor]

Some coaches don't believe in resting their starters. Much in the same way that some teams come out completely uncoordinated, or lost from a bye week. This obviously doesn't happen to most teams, as the bye week is a huge advantage. But some teams just flat out suck coming out of a week off. The rhythm is gone, etc.

I didn't figure the defending SB champs would need to keep playing in order to be sharp. I guess it's a good thing they didn't get a gd bye or they'd play like shit in the 2nd round of the playoffs.

[bcoop]

I didn't figure the defending SB champs would need to keep playing in order to be sharp. I guess it's a good thing they didn't get a gd bye or they'd play like shit in the 2nd round of the playoffs.

I'm not saying this is the case. I'm just saying over the years, there have been lots of coaches who didn't believe in pulling their starters. That could have been the case with Smith and with Payton.


NO has been inconsistent at times this year, however. And so has Atlanta, really. Atlanta snaps out of it quick (as in, turns it around for the next quarter, as opposed to the next game). I could see that playing a role in why they did what they did.

[Lone Sailor]

My only guess is that Sean Peyton wanted to play Brees and company for some reason.... Same as Atlanta. why? Who knows....

As I noted in my reply to bcoop, it's a good thing they didn't win the division and get the 1st round bye then or they would be in big trouble.

[papapepper]

As I noted in my reply to bcoop, it's a good thing they didn't win the division and get the 1st round bye then or they would be in big trouble.

They had a BYE last year? You tell me if it ended on a bad note.

[Lone Sailor]

I'm not saying this is the case. I'm just saying over the years, there have been lots of coaches who didn't believe in pulling their starters. That could have been the case with Smith and with Payton.


NO has been inconsistent at times this year, however. And so has Atlanta, really. Atlanta snaps out of it quick (as in, turns it around for the next quarter, as opposed to the next game). I could see that playing a role in why they did what they did.

Yeah I have seen it over the years and have never figured out their risk versus reward formula on that. Sure, I want to see a competitive game, and I don't want some scrub team getting into the playoffs just because some week 13 division clincher with home field advantage is playing their 2nd and 3rd stringers against a team in week 17 that will let the scrub team in the playoffs if they lose, but it seems like the injury part doesn't really persuade them on the decision like I would think it would. Like not as much of an impact on making the decision.