Should Jason Garrett be fired?

[bcoop]

You have to admit though, if he were to fire Garrett this soon he knows he would be admitting he was completely and utterly wrong in every aspect of his publicly known master plan of bringing Garrett up to be the cream of the crop in coaching in the NFL.

I agree with that. And he's not ready to that yet, I believe. But I also believe Garrett is not the answer, and I believe that JJ's temper is shorter than you think. No fucking way in hell his tenure lasts 5 years unless they make it to, and do something in the playoffs both this year and next. If next season is a repeat of this one, he's done. May not even make it to the end of the season next year.

[Lone Sailor]

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/jerry-jones-insists-jason-garrett-will-be-back-as-coach-of-dallas-cowboys-123011

UPDATED DEC 30, 2011 5:17 PM ET

Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones has emphatically squashed speculation that a loss to the Giants could cost head coach Jason Garrett his job, The Dallas Morning News reported Friday.

The winner of Sunday night's clash at MetLife Stadium will win the NFC East and host a playoff game the following week, while the loser's season will end.

Jones said any idea that the second-year coach could be fired is "just ridiculous," adding that the franchise is "just getting started" with Garrett as the head coach.

Even if the Cowboys were to be blown out by the Giants, Jones said his stance will not change.

"We're going to answer this thing as many ways as you want to answer, with as many circumstances," Jones said on his weekly radio show on 105.3 The Fan in Dallas.

"His job has no bearing and is not a part of this ballgame. Yes, he's going to be our coach next year, period. No matter what the score is."

Garrett is 8-7 in his first full year as coach of the Cowboys after replacing Wade Phillips midway through last season.

The former offensive coordinator has guided quarterback Tony Romo to a career-high 102.2 rating this season, and the team ranks ninth in total offense.

The Giants won the first meeting in Dallas 37-34 in Week 14, rallying from a 12-point deficit in the fourth quarter.

[UserX]

Didn't he also say he wouldn't fire Wade Phillips during the season last year?

[01vnms4v]

Cowgirls will never win if you guys want a new coach every freaking year. No new coach can take a team to the playoffs yet alone the Super Bowl first year.

All the players have to learn new plays, ect.

Look how long it took Johnson to get the cowgirls to their first Super Bowl under his coaching

[Lason]

Cowgirls will never win if you guys want a new coach every freaking year. No new coach can take a team to the playoffs yet alone the Super Bowl first year.

All the players have to learn new plays, ect.

Look how long it took Johnson to get the cowgirls to their first Super Bowl under his coaching

x elevenbillion

[Lone Sailor]

Cowgirls will never win if you guys want a new coach every freaking year. No new coach can take a team to the playoffs yet alone the Super Bowl first year.

All the players have to learn new plays, ect.

Look how long it took Johnson to get the cowgirls to their first Super Bowl under his coaching

x elevenbillion

Oh really? LMAO!

Here's a few....

Made Playoffs as 1st Year HC of Team
Bill Cowher, 1992 Steelers
Pete Carroll, 1997 Patriots
Chan Gailey, 1998 Cowboys
Mike Holmgren, 1999 Seahawks
Jim Haslett, 2000 Saints
Tony Dungy, 2002 Colts
Bill Parcels, 2003 Cowboys
Sean Peyton, 2006 Saints
Eric Mangini, 2006 Jets
Mike Tomlin, 2007 Steelers
Norv Turner, 2007 Chargers
Mike Smith, 2008 Falcons
Rex Ryan, 2009 Jets
John Harbaugh, 2008 Ravens
Jim Caldwell, 2009 Colts
Pete Carroll, 2010 Seahwaks
Jim Harbaugh, 2011 49ers

Made Super Bowl as 1st Year HC of Team
Jim Caldwell, 2009 Colts

[Lason]

Oh really? LMAO!

Here's a few....

Made Playoffs as 1st Year HC of Team
Bill Cowher, 1992 Steelers
Pete Carroll, 1997 Patriots
Chan Gailey, 1998 Cowboys
Mike Holmgren, 1999 Seahawks
Jim Haslett, 2000 Saints
Tony Dungy, 2002 Colts
Bill Parcels, 2003 Cowboys
Sean Peyton, 2006 Saints
Eric Mangini, 2006 Jets
Mike Tomlin, 2007 Steelers
Norv Turner, 2007 Chargers
Mike Smith, 2008 Falcons
Rex Ryan, 2009 Jets
John Harbaugh, 2008 Ravens
Jim Caldwell, 2009 Colts
Pete Carroll, 2010 Seahwaks
Jim Harbaugh, 2011 49ers

Made Super Bowl as 1st Year HC of Team
Jim Caldwell, 2009 Colts

I was agreeing with his initial sentence of "wont ever win if we fire coaches every year"

That list looks great and all but there are plenty of successful coaches that arent on that list and went on to have great careers.

[Lone Sailor]

I was agreeing with his initial sentence of "wont ever win if we fire coaches every year"

That list looks great and all but there are plenty of successful coaches that arent on that list and went on to have great careers.

You quoted his entire post with a response of "x elevenbillion" so you left it wide open for interpretation.

LOL, well that's great and all, but I was responding to his claim that "No new coach can take a team to the playoffs yet alone the Super Bowl first year", which I put in bold in my response to him. Where you came up with the fact that anyone was talking about successful coaches that have had great careers is beyond me. Are you sure you're even posting in the right thread?

[Rick Modena]

LOL, well that's great and all, but I was responding to his claim that "No new coach can take a team to the playoffs yet alone the Super Bowl first year", which I put in bold in my response to him.

My problem isn't with his lack of success in his first year and half, its his coaching decisions as a whole. More than a few games have been lost with his ability to make important game time decisions. You're ass gets hired to be a HC in the NFL, you should have your shit together and I just don't see this. Now if we were rebuilding he could have time to coach from the seat of his pants as he goes but to take over a team with more than enough talent you should have no rookie problems.

[Lone Sailor]

My problem isn't with his lack of success in his first year and half, its his coaching decisions as a whole. More than a few games have been lost with his ability to make important game time decisions. You're ass gets hired to be a HC in the NFL, you should have your shit together and I just don't see this. Now if we were rebuilding he could have time to coach from the seat of his pants as he goes but to take over a team with more than enough talent you should have no rookie problems.

The team is rebuilding in a way, isn't it? New defense coordinator this year and they did make several off season personnel changes(plus draft picks), which usually takes a little bit of time together in order to congeal.

[Lason]

You quoted his entire post with a response of "x elevenbillion" so you left it wide open for interpretation.

LOL, well that's great and all, but I was responding to his claim that "No new coach can take a team to the playoffs yet alone the Super Bowl first year", which I put in bold in my response to him. Where you came up with the fact that anyone was talking about successful coaches that have had great careers is beyond me. Are you sure you're even posting in the right thread?

I know it was up for interpretation and was just sharing what I was agreeing with since you decided to quote me. Just an FYI for ya.

Are we not talking about if Jerry should fire Jason Garrett? I said there have been plenty of good coaches who didnt go to playoffs or SB first year. Im making a generalized point. Do you honestly not see how that pertains to this thread?

[Nash B.]

The team is rebuilding in a way, isn't it? New defense coordinator this year and they did make several off season personnel changes(plus draft picks), which usually takes a little bit of time together in order to congeal.

I'm pretty sure the only three changes they made on defense were Rob Ryan, Abram Elam, and Kenyon Coleman, after setting an NFL record for points allowed in a season last year. Not really rebuilding there, where they needed it most.

[bcoop]

I'm pretty sure the only three changes they made on defense were Rob Ryan, Abram Elam, and Kenyon Coleman, after setting an NFL record for points allowed in a season last year. Not really rebuilding there, where they needed it most.

Yep.

[Lason]

I change my mind, fire the soulless piece of crap.

[Lone Sailor]

I know it was up for interpretation and was just sharing what I was agreeing with since you decided to quote me. Just an FYI for ya.

Are we not talking about if Jerry should fire Jason Garrett? I said there have been plenty of good coaches who didnt go to playoffs or SB first year. Im making a generalized point. Do you honestly not see how that pertains to this thread?

I was just being facetious.