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    Appears some big names may be in trouble at some point ?

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    NEW YORK -- An Internet poker company that was blocked from operating in the U.S. in the spring as part of an online gambling crackdown was "not a legitimate poker company, but a global Ponzi scheme," federal prosecutors said Tuesday.

    The popular Full Tilt Poker website illegally raided player accounts to fund operations and make lavish payments to its owners, Justice Department lawyers said in a revised civil lawsuit filed in New York.

    Over four years, the company used $444 million in player money to pay board members, including well-known professional poker players Christopher Ferguson and Howard Lederer, investigators said.

    The poker site had promised players that their accounts were protected and wouldn't be touched. But authorities say that, as of March, the company had only $60 million left in its bank accounts to cover the $390 million it owed to players. It routinely mingled player money with its own finances, and took cash from some customers to pay out winnings due to others, prosecutors said.

    "Full Tilt was not a legitimate poker company, but a global Ponzi scheme," U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara said in a statement. "Not only did the firm orchestrate a massive fraud against the U.S. banking system, as previously alleged, Full Tilt also cheated and abused its own players to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars."

    A lawyer for the site, Barry Boss, was traveling Tuesday and not immediately available for comment. The Associated Press could not immediately locate Ferguson, Lederer or their representatives for comment.

    Federal authorities initially sued Full Tilt Poker in April as part of a broad crackdown on the most popular online poker sites in the U.S. They also filed criminal charges against the company's two top executives, Nelson Burtnick and Raymond Bitar.

    Those charges are pending, and the men are still being sought by authorities. Previously, they have issued statements through a publicist condemning the charges as unfounded.

    Executives at two other sites, PokerStars and Absolute Poker, also face charges and civil suits seeking millions of dollars in gambling proceeds.




    U.S. lawmakers made it a crime to accept money in connection with unlawful gambling in 2006, but some big card-playing sites continued to operate anyway, saying their off-shore status or methods of processing payments put them outside the law's reach.

    Many of the companies did business by having gamblers deposit money in special online accounts. Those accounts were then used to pay losses and receive winnings.

    In its revised lawsuit against Full Tilt, Justice Department lawyers said that even though the company had assured players that those accounts "are segregated and held separately from our operating accounts," they were actually drained regularly for other purposes, including paying the company's owners and board members.

    Bitar got $41 million and Lederer got $42 million, the lawsuit said. Ferguson was supposed to get $87.5 million, although he may have only received $25 million of that amount so far, federal prosecutors claimed.

  • #2
    Uhm this isn't a sport.
    Originally posted by talisman
    I wonder if there will be a new character that specializes in bjj and passive agressive comebacks?
    Originally posted by AdamLX
    If there was, I wouldn't pick it because it would probably just keep leaving the game and then coming back like nothing happened.
    Originally posted by Broncojohnny
    Because fuck you, that's why
    Originally posted by 80coupe
    nice dick, Idrivea4banger
    Originally posted by Rick Modena
    ......and idrivea4banger is a real person.
    Originally posted by Jester
    Man ive always wanted to smoke a bowl with you. Just seem like a cool cat.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by idrivea4banger View Post
      Uhm this isn't a sport.
      Tell ESPN that!
      .

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      • #4
        Hey ESPN, Fox Sports, this isnt a sport. Even nascar and curling is more of a sport than poker.
        Los Angeles Rams 11-5
        Last Game - Loss vs. San Fransisco
        Up Next - vs. Atlanta

        2017 NFC West Division Champions

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        • #5
          Originally posted by pHILSANITY07 View Post
          Hey ESPN, Fox Sports, this isnt a sport. Even nascar and curling is more of a sport than poker.


          Is Rams football still considered a sport?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by BERT View Post
            Is Rams football still considered a sport?
            yes numbnuts it qualifies as a sport, just like your Dallas Stars qualify as a sport.
            Los Angeles Rams 11-5
            Last Game - Loss vs. San Fransisco
            Up Next - vs. Atlanta

            2017 NFC West Division Champions

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            • #7
              Originally posted by pHILSANITY07 View Post
              yes numbnuts it qualifies as a sport, just like your Dallas Stars qualify as a sport.

              HAHA, i couldn't resist


              but Dallas Stars??

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              • #8
                Originally posted by BERT View Post
                HAHA, i couldn't resist


                but Dallas Stars??
                I honestly didnt have any other comeback lol. Rams didnt look that bad last night, there are way worse looking teams in the NFL than us right now.
                Los Angeles Rams 11-5
                Last Game - Loss vs. San Fransisco
                Up Next - vs. Atlanta

                2017 NFC West Division Champions

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by pHILSANITY07 View Post
                  I honestly didnt have any other comeback lol. Rams didnt look that bad last night, there are way worse looking teams in the NFL than us right now.
                  About three others. lmao
                  How do we forget ourselves? How do we forget our minds?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by The Geofster View Post
                    The Steelers. lmao

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                    • #11
                      Kansas City
                      Indianapolis Colts
                      Seattle Seahawks
                      Los Angeles Rams 11-5
                      Last Game - Loss vs. San Fransisco
                      Up Next - vs. Atlanta

                      2017 NFC West Division Champions

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                      • #12
                        You know in cash games I can count on one hand how many times I've lost with a boat to a bigger boat or a flush to a bigger flush. On full tilt though it happened to me 3 times in one sitting. I'm not saying it was rigged but the odds of that happening are pretty slim. Granted I was playing 2-3 tables at a time but still, that crap hardly ever happens.

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