Best receiver in the $500-700 range

[jluv]

Brent, you should be able to work around it. That's what I did. Just run HDMI directly from your sources to your TV (for video). Then run optical (or digital coax) from the sources to the receiver (for audio). Then you'll just have to select your input for the TV and the receiver (instead of just the receiver) whenever you change sources.

[LS1Goat]

What type of cables are you guys using that are having problems with the Onkyo? And what is your HDMI Monitor Out setting? It defaults to 'Auto' in the Onkyo. Change it from 'Auto' to 'Through' and leave Deep Color set to 'Auto' on all devices. I've yet to have a single Handshake issue using 6ft. Mediabridge Ultra 1.4 ARC w/Ethernet HDMI cables. I have a Roku 3, Panny Bluray player, & FIOS DVR for my HDMI input devices. The TV is a Panny Plasma. This is on a 609 and 818 model.

These are the cables I'm using for all devices. http://www.mediabridgeproducts.com/s...Foot-138p6.htm

[jluv]

What type of cables are you guys using that are having problems with the Onkyo? And what is your HDMI Monitor Out setting? It defaults to 'Auto' in the Onkyo. Change it from 'Auto' to 'Through' and leave Deep Color set to 'Auto' on all devices. I've yet to have a single Handshake issue using 6ft. Mediabridge Ultra 1.4 ARC w/Ethernet HDMI cables. I have a Roku 3, Panny Bluray player, & FIOS DVR for my HDMI input devices. The TV is a Panny Plasma. This is on a 609 and 818 model.

These are the cables I'm using for all devices. http://www.mediabridgeproducts.com/s...Foot-138p6.htm

Dude, this is an old thread, and just one of many where we've been round and round with you about this. Onkyos are known for handshake issues, even with the perfect settings, the best cables, etc etc. Yours works so far - we get it. Congratulations on being one of the lucky ones. But just because you don't have the problems with yours doesn't mean that the tons of people who have are doing something wrong.

To answer your question, I've used cheap cables and fancy cables, usually 4', never more than 6'. I've tried every setting and trick out there. The Onkyos I had would work perfect for a while, then they started acting up every now and then, and then they got to where you had to wait forever or plug and unplug shit, turn things on and off, etc. Then they just got to where they wouldn't work at all, regardless of source, settings, cables, etc. Slide a different receiver in its place (in my case, a Yamaha), and everything works exactly like it should. Same sources, same cables, same settings. No issues.

All this is coming from a guy who used to really like Onkyo. I had 3 in my home at one point. I just don't see those kind of widespread, consistent complaints for a lot of other brands. If you look at the big picture here, outside of just your own experience, it would be pretty irresponsible to recommend Onkyo to anyone.

[LS1Goat]

Dude, this is an old thread, and just one of many where we've been round and round with you about this. Onkyos are known for handshake issues, even with the perfect settings, the best cables, etc etc. Yours works so far - we get it. Congratulations on being one of the lucky ones. But just because you don't have the problems with yours doesn't mean that the tons of people who have are doing something wrong.

All this is coming from a guy who used to really like Onkyo. I had 3 in my home at one point. I just don't see those kind of widespread, consistent complaints for a lot of other brands. If you look at the big picture here, outside of just your own experience, it would be pretty irresponsible to recommend Onkyo to anyone.

As I have stated before, I do not deny that people have HDMI issues with Onkyo receivers. I'm just affirming that I do not. And I'm just pointing out the settings and the cables that I use with good results.

I actually would recommend any of the upper end Onkyo receivers with Audyssey MultEQ XT32. As they simply sound excellent with great imaging.

However, you're right...In the $500 range, I would recommend a Denon 1912/1913 over most others at this point.

[bcoop]

from what I've seen/heard the handshake issues are primarily with devices with Deep Color turned on. Safe to assume you've turned that off on your sources? Most of the Sony Bluray players have the same issue with the HDMI-cat5 extenders we use.

I haven't done a ton of research on this particular issue, but is there a known hardware fix for it and you just need someone to actually fix it?

Late getting back to this, but Momo posted a video about it. I want to say the issues is the undersized capacitors, or crap capacitors from the factory.

[bcoop]

Brent, you should be able to work around it. That's what I did. Just run HDMI directly from your sources to your TV (for video). Then run optical (or digital coax) from the sources to the receiver (for audio). Then you'll just have to select your input for the TV and the receiver (instead of just the receiver) whenever you change sources.

Then I lose functionality of the receiver. Don't want to have to do that.

[jluv]

Then I lose functionality of the receiver. Don't want to have to do that.

Well, technically, yes. But in fact, the only thing you lose is the ability to pass video through the receiver and use it as a video switching source. In a way, you're being more efficient and "pure" with the video signal by running directly from the source(s) to the video monitor. You definitely don't need or want the receiver to process the video signal in any way. So ya, you lose the video pass through capability, and you have to use one or two extra key strokes on your remote, or just use a programmable remote that does it for you. You can still run the digital audio from the source to the receiver via optical or coax and let it do its thing. You'll still get Dolby 5.1, DTS, etc. You can still use PLIIx to simulate 7.1, which is the best you can get on any TV show or DVD, anyway. You just can't do DTS-HD or Dolby TrueHD. Most older receivers don't support those formats, anyway, nor would you miss them much in a bedroom, most likely.

But at the end of the day, I'm with you on wanting the receiver to do everything it's supposed to do without compromise. I just wouldn't trash it or put more money into fixing it. Should be fine for a second room.

[momo]

Late getting back to this, but Momo posted a video about it. I want to say the issues is the undersized capacitors, or crap capacitors from the factory.

Maybe this:

http://youtu.be/gj0x5S9ez5U

[bcoop]

Maybe this:

http://youtu.be/gj0x5S9ez5U

That is it. I just need someone to do it for me. I don't have steady hands for soldering, and lack the time and patience. Can anyone recommend a shop? I can order the parts needed.

[momo]

id be afraid of messing it up.

my hifi friend kenny takes all his gear to a dude named frank. works out of his house in mckinney. dunno how much $ it will be. i'll pm you his number.

[matts5.0]

I've had Yamaha Panasonic and now an onkyo for the last year. not a single problem. I use my ps3 everyday!

[FATHERFORD]

Has anyone messed with the
[ame="http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-Channel-Receiver-VSX-1123-K-Black/dp/B00BKXCKRC/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top"]Pioneer VSX-1123[/ame]?

I've had Yamaha, HK, and Sony(Currently have STR-DH710). I'm looking for a receiver that has some power to push my speakers. I have TSI 500's, CS20 for center, and TSI-200's for surrounds.

[jluv]

I've had Yamaha Panasonic and now an onkyo for the last year. not a single problem. I use my ps3 everyday!

That's not saying anything. My Onkyos lasted more than a year before they started acting up.

[Grant]

I've had both high-end pioneers and onkyos and I have not been happier since switching to Yamaha. It always works right...don't have hdmi handshake issues nor networking/airplay issues. GUI is easy/effective and it sounds great.

[BttleFedC10]

Whats yalls thought on this receiver?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=0MJ-0022-00011&IsVirtualParent=1