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    From reports, they hacked the controls and landed it in Iran complete. They now have one of our most technologically advanced pieces of engineering.

    First the stealth helicopter in Pakistan, now this, and both have been extensively inspected by the Chinese, engineering that the US population has even been kept in the dark about... fucking great.

    A U.S. super-secret spy plane believed to be in Iranian possession could be a major loss for the U.S. military -- and a major gain for Iran.

    According to a senior U.S. military source with intimate knowledge of the Sentinel drone, the aircraft likely "wandered" into Iranian air space after losing contact with its handlers and is presumed to be intact since it is programmed to fly level and find a place to land, rather than crashing.

    "This is a big prize in terms of technology," a senior U.S. military source told Fox News.

    The spy plane uses the same stealth technology as the drone used to monitor the compound during the raid that killed Usama bin Laden, U.S. military sources told Fox News on Monday.

    Military sources confirmed that the Iranians have the RQ-170 drone, which is so advanced that the U.S. Air Force has not distributed even a photo of it. However, they did not say that the Iranians shot down the spy plane, as was reported by Iran's official IRNA news agency.

    IRNA quoted an unidentified Iranian military official saying Sunday that the spy plane was shot down by Iran's armed forces and suffered minor damage.. The official also warned of strong and crushing response to any violations of the country's airspace by American drone aircraft.

    Earlier, the U.S.-led coalition in Afghanistan issued a statement saying the aircraft may have been a drone that operators lost contact with last week while it was flying a mission over neighboring western Afghanistan.

    A U.S. official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the classified nature of the incident, said the U.S. had "absolutely no indication" that the drone was shot down.

    Iran is locked in a dispute with the U.S. and its allies over Tehran's disputed nuclear program, which the West believes is aimed at developing nuclear weapons. Iran denies the accusations, saying its nuclear program is entirely peaceful and that it seeks to generate electricity and produce isotopes to treat medical patients.

    Iran said in January that two pilotless spy planes it had shot down over its airspace were operated by the United States and offered to put them on public display. In July, Iranian military officials showed Russian experts several U.S. drones they said were shot down in recent years.

    Also in July, Iranian lawmaker Ali Aghazadeh Dafsari said Iran's Revolutionary Guard shot down an unmanned U.S. spy plane that was trying to gather information on an underground uranium enrichment site.

    The RQ-170 Sentinel is made by Lockheed Martin and is equipped with stealth technology. The $6 million stealth aircraft manufactured by Lockheed Martin has an RQ in its name to indicate it is unarmed.

    Neither the Air Force nor manufacturer Lockheed Martin has released much information about the plane, dubbed "The Beast of Kandahar" in 2007 when its existence was finally confirmed.

    "The RQ-170 Sentinel, a low observable UAV, was built by Lockheed Martin's Advanced Development Programs," Major Cristin L. Marposon, a public affairs officer for the USAF at the Pentagon, finally told FoxNews.com in 2009.

    Sources said that the plane was designed for surveillance, not for attack.

    Little is known about the plane beyond its intended goals, however, with no official images released or details about its composition. Leaked photographs purportedly of the craft depict a sleek, biwing design, intended to present a stealthier, harder to hit profile that other drones or other aircraft.

    "The USAF has not issued any public release photos of the RQ-170," Melissa Dalton of Lockheed Martin told FoxNews.com

    Early reports suggested that plane -- which supposedly has a wingspan of about 65 feet and can fly at around 50,000 feet -- would be made almost entirely without metal to help it dodge radar, and special paint provides additional stealth.

    Sen. Mark Kirk, R-Ill., told Fox News on Monday that "it's less likely than not" that the Iranians did not shoot down the plane, but it had a mechanical or computer malfunction that caused it to go down. The Iranians then used it "for propaganda purposes."

    "In the past, they have claimed these shoot-downs and been unable to produce any pieces of the drone, and currently, they have not exhibited any piece of the RQ-170 yet," he said.

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011...#ixzz1fyXuuFVc


    Stevo
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  • #2
    What report says it was hacked and flown?

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    • #3
      Iran hacking a U.S. Drone.... LOL at that. They couldn't hack their way out of a paper sack. I heard it malfunctioned or something and crashed after it ran out of gas.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Muffrazr View Post
        What report says it was hacked and flown?
        I read it the day it happened, basically the article said there is no way it could have landed by itself without any damage after we lost control of it. I think the military is keeping it hush-hush since it would mean that our drones are now basically useless for secret information gathering since they can be downed through measures other than physical damage.

        I'll see if I can find the article.

        Stevo
        Originally posted by SSMAN
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        • #5
          Not the article I was referring, and usually they state-ran Iranian press is nothing but bullshit, but...

          Iran's Press TV on Thursday broadcast an extended video tour of the U.S. spy drone that went down in the country late last week--and it indeed looks to be intact.

          American officials have acknowledged that an unmanned U.S. reconnaissance plane was lost on a mission late last week, but have insisted that there is no evidence the drone was downed by hostile acts by Iran. Rather, they said, the drone likely went down because of a malfunction, and they implied the advanced stealth reconnaissance plane would have fallen from a high altitude--the RQ-170 Sentinel can fly as high as 50,000 feet--and as a result, wouldn't be in good shape.

          Iranian military officials have claimed since Sunday they brought down an intact American spy drone--and now they are giving video tours of what looks to be a drone in apparently decent condition, in what is sure to be another humiliating poke in the eye for U.S. national security agencies.

          "On Sunday December 4, the Iranian Army's electronic warfare unit downed the US RQ-170 Sentinel stealth aircraft which was flying over the Iranian city of Kashmar, some 140 miles (225km) from the Afghan border," Iran's Press TV said in its report Thursday.

          The Pentagon is declining to comment on the images, a Defense Department spokesman told Yahoo News Thursday.

          The New York Times reported Thursday that--unsurprisingly--the RQ-170 was lost while making the latest foray over Iran during an extended CIA surveillance effort of Iran's nuclear and ballistic weapons program.

          "The overflights by the bat-winged RQ-170 Sentinel, built by Lockheed Martin and first glimpsed on an airfield in Kandahar, Afghanistan, in 2009, are part of an increasingly aggressive intelligence collection program aimed at Iran, current and former officials say," the Times' Scott Shane and David Sanger wrote. "The urgency of the effort has been underscored by a recent public debate in Israel about whether time is running out for a military strike to slow Iran's progress toward a nuclear weapon."

          Iran in turn has complained that the drone flights represent an act of aggression and violation of its sovereignty, and summoned the Swiss envoy--who represents U.S. interests in Iran--on Thursday to register its complaints.

          The video tour may also be a move to bid up the price Iran could receive for sharing the highly advanced American stealth drone technology with countries such as China and Russia. Defense experts have suggested that those countries have the advanced military know-how to be able to use the access to the previously secret U.S. RQ-170 technology to benefit their own programs.
          Stevo
          Originally posted by SSMAN
          ...Welcome to the land of "Fuck it". No body cares, and if they do, no body cares.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Machx2 View Post
            Iran hacking a U.S. Drone.... LOL at that. They couldn't hack their way out of a paper sack. I heard it malfunctioned or something and crashed after it ran out of gas.

            Yet the news clip shows it as being completely undamaged. It didn't crash dude. And just because it was over Iran, that doesn't mean Iran was responsible for hacking it. If you think about it, Russia or China either one could have people on the ground there, or, since it is controlled via satellite, who says they even have to be in Iran to do so?


            What pisses me off is that our spineless CIC will not do anything at all to try and take it out, as that 'could be considered an act of war'. We need to, at a minimum, blow that bitch up! Instead hussein is giving them a fully operational and undamaged drone.

            What a crock...
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            • #7
              Something else I have read a few times... the Taliban in Afghanistan have no radar sites, so technically there is no need to use a stealth drone to gather information there, but there is a shit-ton of radar sites in Iran, and there are many rumors of late that we have a clandestine force operating in Iran at the moment, so it stands that it was probably in Iran purposely instead of the military release that it wandered there on it's own. They claimed that it would have fell from high altitude and would have been destroyed, and yet it wasn't. Flying wings are very unstable in flight, so it is doubtful that it simply glided in for a soft touch-down.

              There is a BUNCH more to this story than what the military is releasing.

              Stevo
              Originally posted by SSMAN
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              • #8
                Something tells me that this drone wasn't a big loss anyway -- a decoy of sorts.
                How do we forget ourselves? How do we forget our minds?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by The Geofster View Post
                  Something tells me that this drone wasn't a big loss anyway -- a decoy of sorts.
                  I thought the same thing.

                  I just have a really hard time believing this story. But it would be a great way to introduce things like computer viruses or disinformation to an enemy. I don't think we have anything to worry about as it will take years for those monkeys over there to reverse engineer anything out of it and by that time we will have moved on to something better.
                  Originally posted by racrguy
                  What's your beef with NPR, because their listeners are typically more informed than others?
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                  • #10
                    In the original article it states:

                    "According to a senior U.S. military source with intimate knowledge of the Sentinel drone, the aircraft likely "wandered" into Iranian air space after losing contact with its handlers and is presumed to be intact since it is programmed to fly level and find a place to land, rather than crashing."

                    I would also like to add that the wing span can't be 65 feet, as it is suggested in the original article. I'm ASSuming this based off the width of my shoulders and the very high likelihood that the dude standing in front of the plane is similar sized or smaller (most likely smaller).

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                    • #11
                      Holy crap that one in the video is HUGE compared to the old ones they had. heh, almost drove off with one tethered to my humvee.
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                      • #12
                        Operation "Trojan Horse" is going along just as planned...

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by jw33 View Post
                          Operation "Trojan Horse" is going along just as planned...
                          I actually had this thought to some degree. I wonder what will happen when they plug into the USB port this time...

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                          • #14
                            Agreed on the 65 ft wingspan, unless those guys are both 9 ft tall. I'm liking the Trojan horse idea very much.
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                            • #15
                              I'm not buying anything Iran says or that it's a huge secret. Read here:

                              The RQ-170 Sentinel drone lost over Iran is one of America's most valuable intelligence assets. It's unclear what brought it down - hostile fire or malfunction. Iran claims to have shot it down but has provided no photographs.


                              Things to note:

                              1) Iran claimed to have shot it down. If so, wreckage does them no good.

                              2) The technology is considered outdated now from when it was introduced about 2 years ago.

                              3) Where are the pictures of the captured drone?

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