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    I got one of these and have a court date set up for it, what are the chances of getting this dismissed? I had my plate with me at the time but it was on my floor board, cop also issued me a speeding ticket at the time but I was too pissed to acknowledge the plate shit he put on there.

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    <-------- in before "stop breaking the law asshole" comment/picture

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    • #3
      I think if you take a pic of the plate installed, you can get it dismissed with maybe a small court fee....I think.

      I don't have mine on either. I'm sure it's just a matter of time for some cop to have nothing better to do that write a ticket for that...I mean, I'm sure there a very valid reason to have the front plate on...I just can't think of any right now.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by GeorgeG. View Post
        I don't have mine on either. I'm sure it's just a matter of time for some cop to have nothing better to do that write a ticket for that...I mean, I'm sure there a very valid reason to have the front plate on...I just can't think of any right now.
        Ditto. It's a non-moving violation so that part shouldn't go against your insurance. I'm gonna look at it as a pay-to-play whenever I finally "get caught".

        And ya...there is no good reason for a front plate. 19 States don't seem to have a problem with only one plate.
        "Self-government won't work without self-discipline." - Paul Harvey

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        • #5
          Just got one about two weeks ago and it was solely for the lack of a front plate. Wasn't speeding and the asshole pulled me over just for that. Gotta get that revenue.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by GeorgeG. View Post
            I don't have mine on either. I'm sure it's just a matter of time for some cop to have nothing better to do that write a ticket for that...I mean, I'm sure there a very valid reason to have the front plate on...I just can't think of any right now.
            I actually argued this exact point with a sheriff. While his stance on it was that the plate exists for public safety, my stance was that the department is more-or-less revenue collecting ballwashers harassing nearly innocent bystanders.. I then asked him to define public safety and it.

            Yeah, I got a ticket but that was happening regardless. I'll pay the 1.45 no-plate tickets I average every 5 years. It's a trade-off.

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            • #7
              Well it was in Lewisville and they told me it's a $168 fine or I could set a court date which I did. I bought one of those flip-up plate holders I plan on installing before the court date.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by bjtheman1 View Post
                Well it was in Lewisville and they told me it's a $168 fine or I could set a court date which I did. I bought one of those flip-up plate holders I plan on installing before the court date.
                Holy shit. I got one in Sherman a long time ago and it was only $85 ! The car I got the ticket for was from Oklahoma originally so they never had to put a front plate on it and it didn't even have the holes for it.

                You may be able to get it dropped and just pay the court costs by putting it on, like others above have said. I know you don't want to drill holes in your bumper cover, so the flip up one that mounts behind the cover is a good idea. Or just pay it and call it an "aesthetic tax".

                -Aaron

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                • #9
                  They use the front plate as a target for the radar/laser to reflect from...
                  Remember, radar doesn't return good off the swoopy-doopy aero shape most of us drive these days. (Don't see no front license plate on a B2 do ya'?...)

                  that's' one of the real reasons they want it on there.

                  mardyn

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by bjtheman1 View Post
                    Well it was in Lewisville and they told me it's a $168 fine or I could set a court date which I did. I bought one of those flip-up plate holders I plan on installing before the court date.
                    168 freakin bucks?!?! Damn that's ridiculous! Looks like I may have to trim mine with some plastic door guard trim (so it doesn't scratch) and place it on the dash while I'm driving.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by mardyn View Post
                      They use the front plate as a target for the radar to reflect from...
                      Remember, radar doesn't return good off the swoopy-doopy aero shape most of us drive these days. (Don't see no front license plate on B2 do ya'?...)

                      that's' one of the real reasons they want it on there.

                      mardyn
                      um, I think that's more of an old school myth.

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                      • #12
                        Hmmm, I'm old school, so it makes sense to me.

                        mardyn

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by GeorgeG. View Post
                          168 freakin bucks?!?! Damn that's ridiculous! Looks like I may have to trim mine with some plastic door guard trim (so it doesn't scratch) and place it on the dash while I'm driving.

                          The dashboard thing no longer flies. It has to be mounted to the front bumper.

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                          • #14
                            Matt said something about it's for hit and runs. Person rear ends someone the plate usually falls off and they take off. I don't know if he was being serious but that's what I read.

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                            • #15
                              I've been stopped 5 times in my Mustang for no front plate, but never received a ticket for it. It's been in Argyle 4 of the 5 times too, and every time I'm sitting on the side of the road waiting for the officer to come back and say I'm free to go, I count at least 5 other cars passing me with no front plates on.

                              It ridiculous that I keep getting stopped just to be let go, but whatever, I'm glad I don't have to pay a fine.

                              I was ticketed for it one time in Flower Mound in Flower Mound about ten years ago and I was able to just stick the plate on with some tape, take a pic, and have the judge dismiss it.

                              They're probably trying to get their money from you now considering after the 1st of the year they might not be able to...




                              AUSTIN -- Texas lawmakers scrambling to pass many bills on the final day of the legislative session approved a measure that did not specify the fines for driving without license plates, meaning drivers cited for such violations may not face punishment after the law takes effect Jan. 1.

                              The bill's sponsor, Rep. Joe Pickett, D-El Paso, sent Attorney General Greg Abbott a written request last month seeking an opinion on whether the fines of up to $200 could still be enforced. He acknowledged in his letter that the penalty language "was inadvertently left out of the bill" but contended that the penalties are implicit in the legislation and that interpreting the law otherwise could have dangerous consequences.

                              "There would be far reaching results for law enforcement and the general public if law enforcement had no way to identify vehicles transporting victims, drugs, and criminal suspects," Pickett wrote. Word of the omission was first reported by the Austin American-Statesman.

                              Pickett said Wednesday that in such large pieces of legislation that go through many rewrites, "these kinds of things happen."

                              "It's kind of silly, if you take it in context, that there shouldn't be or wouldn't be a fine for not having a license plate," he said by phone. "I don't think people are going to deliberately drive without one because they would be calling attention to themselves."

                              Abbott's office received Pickett's letter Oct. 24 and has 180 days to respond. Spokesman Tom Kelley said that an opinion will be issued April 21, meeting the deadline, and that no one had asked for an expedited decision even though the law takes effect in less than two months.

                              Failing to display two license plates has been a misdemeanor punishable by up to $200 in fines in Texas since 1934, although drivers who correct the problem in a timely manner can pay as little as $10. The language of the original statute had not been modified until Pickett's law was approved

                              Attorneys for the Texas Department of Motor Vehicles helped Pickett draft his letter to the attorney general, agency spokeswoman Kim Sue Lia Perkes said. She said that even after Jan. 1, it will still be a violation to drive without license plates but that punishment for such citations is a matter for law enforcement or the attorney general's office.

                              Pickett wrote that he believes the ambiguity in enforcing license plate fines could affect the enforcement of related offenses, including those pertaining to the use of incorrect plates, antique plates, and obstructed or falsified plates.

                              "When I was 16 years old, I might want to take off my plates and dare them to stop me," he joked of police. "But I don't think it will be a big deal."

                              The Legislature doesn't reconvene until January 2013, and should the bill need to be changed before then, the governor would have to call a special session.

                              Gov. Rick Perry has been out of state campaigning. Spokesman Josh Havens said that the matter is in Abbott's hands and that there are no plans for a special session.
                              --Marcus

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